Poisoning Objections Answered

(1). SRILA PRABHUPADA HAD BLOOD TESTS DONE IN LONDON, SEPTEMBER 1977, WHICH WOULD HAVE SHOWN POISONING IF IT WAS TRUE.

This is incorrect. Testimonies and interviews collected by the Truth Committee have determined that there are no existing records of any Srila Prabhupada blood tests, and no one knows for sure if or which blood tests might have been done. But unless a specific test for heavy metals is requested by the doctor, patient, or police, which is not a normal procedure, a cadmium poisoning would not be detected. Normal tests for blood count and diabetes would not discover the cadmium. Heavy metals poisoning is actually detected in only 5 or 10% of all homicides. Any blood tests that Srila Prabhupada had done, if any, were definitely not for determining heavy metals, and therefore the poisoning in London went unnoticed.

 

(2). WHY THE LONG WAIT OF 12 YEARS SINCE THE CADMIUM HAIR TESTS?

Somehow I have found myself bringing volatile issues to the forefront. Why me? I have lived incognito or in remote places for almost two decades. I tried to avoid dealing with these cadmium findings and all the rest that I have had responsibility for with the poisoning evidence, but I cannot sit on it anymore. I was so disheartened by the hatred and cover-up in response to Someone Has Poisoned Me, but now I am getting old. These are scientific facts that have great bearing on the movement and its participants, and they deserve to know of them, even if the messenger is despised. I could have received it sooner if I had tried, but I did not get the final hair tests report from Dr. Morris until 2016.

 

(3). CARETAKERS SUCH AS ABHIRAM WHO WERE WITH SRILA PRABHUPADA IN ‘77, HAVE SAID THAT THEY WOULD HAVE SEEN SOMETHING IF THERE WAS A POISONING.

OK, but Abhiram was Srila Prabhupada’s nurse for under 3 months, and the astronomical cadmium levels went on for at least 8 months according to the hair tests, starting months before Abhiram began his nurse service. He was not there when the poisoning started. Also, he was not on guard by Srila Prabhupada’s bed 24 hours a day, and was not watching all the ways in which a poisoning could have been executed. He did not even suspect at the time and therefore was not watching specifically for a poisoning. Obviously, just because someone was there some of the time, this does not negate the poisoning that somehow occured unseen and which is proven by the hair tests.

 

(4). ONLY LOVING DISCIPLES SURROUNDED SRILA PRABHUPADA, SO HOW COULD THERE BE A POISONING?

The now proven poisoning was not carried out by a witch on a broomstick- it had to have been done from amongst those who were close to Srila Prabhupada, as it required regular doses. Even though Srila Prabhupada was certainly surrounded by loving disciples, the nature of malicious poisoning is that it is secretive and cunning, unseen to all those present. Obviously someone’s rationale for poisoning Srila Prabhupada over-rode whatever affection they had for him. So this objection is emotional and illogical.

 

(5). IF THERE IS NEW AND CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE THAT SRILA PRABHUPADA WAS POISONED, THEN TAKE IT TO THE POLICE AND AUTHORITIES, BUT DON’T BOTHER US.

According to what Bir Krishna Maharaja, the former GBC chairman, what told me in person, is that, yes, this is ISKCON’s hypocritical official position, which contradicts their own policies that prohibit going to civil authorities and instead adjudicating issues only internally within ISKCON. But here they say the opposite with the poison issue, we do not want to handle the issue of Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning internally and it should be done externally, namely go to the police. Well, we do not have any illusions that ISKCON will deal honestly with the proof of Srila Prabhupada’s poisoning, as they have already fraudulently covered it up and are not interested in the truth. ISKCON is only concerned about protecting their guru franchises and financial operations. The truth here is aimed at sincere and honest persons, not the ISKCON misleaders who have steadfastly denied all the evidence. And, further this evidence IS being dealt with by legal authorities as we speak. Poisoners beware!

 

(6). THIS POISON DISCUSSION WILL ONLY DISTURB DEVOTEES, SO WHY DISCUSS IT?

The truth is always worthy and should never be hidden. Yes, the truth of Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance pastimes may be painful and disturbing, but we should cope with the truth- otherwise we should live by avoiding truths? Should we pretend we will not die, considering this to be a disturbing truth? If presented factually, the truth will have a positive effect. If it is denied, covered up, and ignored, it will be very unhealthy and thus become disturbing in a very negative way. Various pastimes of Srila Prabhupada will evoke diverse emotions, but still, it is important, for understanding, preserving and conveying Srila Prabhupada’s legacy, that the truth about all of his pastimes, including his disappearance, is known.

 

(7). THIS POISON ISSUE WAS ALREADY SETTLED YEARS AGO, SO WHY BRING IT UP AGAIN?

ISKCON says that they investigated the poison issue and found no evidence of poisoning, this is preposterous. They covered it up with a phony investigation done by the suspects themselves. The evidence will not just go away because they deny it. The evidence and facts of the matter will be presented directly to the followers of Srila Prabhupada, and we don’t care anymore what the ISKCON leadership thinks. They do not care if Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, but we do.

 

(8). IF HE WAS BEING POISONED, SRILA PRABHUPADA WOULD HAVE PUT AN END TO IT TO PROTECT HIS MOVEMENT.

This is speculation- who can know the mind of the pure devotee? Certainly not us! Was the crucifixion of Christ the end of Christianity? No, BUT Christ’s teachings were adulterated by those who pretended to be his followers. Srila Prabhupada’s mission can only be endangered by deviations from his instructions by his followers, and he will live forever for those who do follow them. Faithful followers will struggle to protect Srila Prabhupada’s movement from those who poisoned its Founder Acharya and then introduced many unauthorized concoctions.

 

(9). KRISHNA ALWAYS PROTECTS HIS PURE DEVOTEES LIKE PRAHLAD AND SRILA PRABHUPADA, SO THERE COULD BE NO POISONING.

We will impose our rules on Krishna, and He must do as we think He should? Why was Haridas Thakur flogged in 22 markets, Christ nailed to the cross, but Prahlad was saved? Because Krishna protects only some of his pure devotees? No, there is much which we cannot see or understand – the Lord works in mysterious ways. Maybe Srila Prabhupada nullified the poison by his mystic powers and left like Bhisma did, at his own time and will. Obviously, Srila Prabhupada is always protected, even if given poison. Also, would a disappearance pastime involving some natural disease or virus be Krishna’s protection, but poisoning would not e by His protection?

 

(10). IF SRILA PRABHUPADA WAS POISONED 40 YEARS AGO, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE NOW?

Those who poisoned him did so to take-over the movement and sit in his seat, using the Acharya’s assets for their separate guru franchises. This was the purpose of the poisoning; to remove Srila Prabhupada and then become guru. What difference does it make? Well, one is the corruption: a child abuse institutional culture, unending and unnecessary book changes, loss by alienation of 95% of Srila Prabhupada’s direct disciples, demigod worship in the temples, total guru financial unaccountability, and about 50% guru public falldowns, what to speak of what is unknown to the public. Another difference is that the movement has been practically ruined by these poisoners and now sincere followers of Srila Prabhupada want to purify the mission of the poisoners, their accomplices, supporters, and doctrines. We should believe that poisoners have faithfully carried out Srila Prabhupada’s desires? Really? Another difference is that we are very upset that Srila Prabhupada was put into such difficulty, that we were unable to protect him, and that he was taken away from us prematurely. Hmmm- What difference does it make? Just be patient and we’ll show you.

 

(11). SRILA PRABHUPADA SAID, “NOT THAT I AM POISONED.”

But this phrase was taken out of context. It means something else than what ISKCON proposes it means. It refers to what someone else told Srila Prabhupada. It is not his denial of being poisoned. Why would Srila Prabhupada speak about being poisoned before and after he spoke this phrase? Why would Tamal ask after this phrase about who had poisoned him, if he was not poisoned? If we look at the actual conversations from November ‘77, it is clear the discussions were about actual, homicidal poisoning, and that fact was acknowledged by all the caretakers there at that time. But today they sing another tune. This shows their dishonesty and that there is something they are hiding. Most of the older ISKCON misleaders privately know or deeply suspect Srila Prabhupada was poisoned, but they cannot admit it openly because they are afraid of losing their positions and finances, or because of institutional pressures. A number of them have already approached us in confidence.

 

(12). THE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POISONING WAS JUST REFERRING TO SOME BAD MEDICINE.

Again, if we read the conversations from late 1977, we will see that the talk of poisoning was not about bad medicine, mustard seeds, or of normal toxins that had built up in the body for years from food. These are cheap diversions from the truth. Srila Prabhupada clearly spoke about homicidal poisoning. Read the conversations and see. Do we have any faith in Srila Prabhupada’s words, or will we say as the GBC does, that Srila Prabhupada was simply complaining at the point of death as is culturally typical of elderly Bengali gentlemen?

 

(13). THIS POISON THEORY IS BLASPHEMOUS OF SENIOR DEVOTEES AND DEFAMES SRILA PRABHUPADA’S GLORIES.

Blasphemy is a false accusation. The truth is that senior disciples are naturally suspected of the poisoning because there is ample evidence to that effect. They are implicated by the evidence. Dishonest cover ups and denial of the factual evidence is the real blasphemy on their part. And as Christ was more glorified for his crucifixion, so Srila Prabhupada will be more gloried by his disappearance pastimes, poisoning and all. How he remained always Krishna conscious, forgiving of his poisoners, and detached from his own physical welfare, lucidly preaching to the very end.

 

(14). THE POISON THEORY IS JUST A RITVIK PLOT.

Well, it could just as well be a Gaudiya Math or Vrindaban babaji plot, as many of them also accept that Srila Prabhupada was poisoned. The truth is not only for those of a certain persuation, just as the Sun shines equally upon all.

 

(15). SRILA PRABHUPADA WAS ALREADY OLD AND VERY ILL, SO WHY WOULD SOMEONE POISON HIM WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO DEPART ANYWAY?

This one comes from Tamal himself. However, the historical records show that Srila Prabhupada was actually in quite good health until July ‘76, and that then his health then began to suspiciously decline. On Feb. 26, ‘77 Srila Prabhupada suddenly became very ill and his health steadily declined for 9 months until his departure. Hair tests establish catastrophic cadmium poisoning for at least 8 of those last months, so the poisoning was over a long time, and was not just a one time affair in his last days. The poison whispers 3 days before departure indicate a final poisoning. Srila Prabhupada may have stayed with us many more years if not for the poisoning which ruined his health in his last year.

 

(16). HAIR ANALYSIS IS NOT A RELIABLE SCIENCE FOR DETERMINING THE BODY BURDEN OF VARIOUS ELEMENTS.

Actually, the science of hair analysis IS widely accepted as a valid and accurate method for determination of poisons and toxins in the human body. It is used by many thousands of scientists, doctors, hospitals, and law enforcement agencies. However, sometimes, due to bad practices or sloppy science, and especially when there are small differences between the environmentally or industrially exposed persons and unexposed persons, then hair analysis in those situations may not be very useful. But that situation is inapplicable to Srila Prabhupada, who had up to 306 times more cadmium than the average normal person, so these dramatic astronomical levels are very clearly a big problem. We are not comparing 0.065 ppm with 0.387 ppm. We are dealing with amounts that stand out like an elephant in a closet. Dr. Morris, who did the hair tests for the Truth Committee, is an expert, experienced, and recognized scientist in the field of hair tests done with neutron activation analysis, and we can trust his findings millions of times more than the ISKCON denials and cover ups.

 

(17). MAYBE SRILA PRABHUPADA ACCIDENTALLY INGESTED CADMIUM FROM AYURVEDIC MEDICINES OR OTHER NON-MALICIOUS SOURCES.

No Ayurvedic medicine uses cadmium as a component- the only cadmium found in them will be very small amounts due to impurities that may come from the ingredients. In this way anyone can ingest extra cadmium from medicine, food, air, etc., and may result in cadmium levels a few times more than normal, not the 250 times more that Srila Prabhupada had. Now, IF the cadmium did come from medicines and so on, how come no one else got these astronomical cadmium levels? Srila Prabhupada’s levels of cadmium are UNPRECEDENTED in the scientific literature. This bar chart shown here compares the level of the average unexposed person at 0.065 ppm cadmium, to the average industrially exposed person at 0.387 ppm, to Dr. Page Hudson’s expert opinion of 1 ppm as a “hefty load,” to ARL, a commercial hair analysis outfit in Arizona, whose president testified that the highest reading of cadmium they ever had out of hundreds of thousands of tests was 2 ppm, to a scientific study showing that the worst industrial waste dump in the USA had 4 ppm cadmium, to Srila Prabhupada’s average 15.75 ppm cadmium, which you can see is almost “off the chart.” Expert opinions are that these levels cannot possibly come from food, medicines, environment, industrial contamination, water, air, cosmetics, and so on- they come only from a deliberate malicious poisoning intended to kill. Thus Kill Guru, Become Guru.

 

(18). THE PUBLICIZING OF SRILA PRABHUPADA’S POISONING WILL BE VERY DAMAGING TO THE PREACHING.

The damage will be upon those who were the poisoners and those who harbored, sheltered, and supported them, and became complicit with their deviant doctrines. How can ISKCON preaching be pure today if the movement was hijacked by poisoners who obviously had a very mundane agenda?

 

(19). HOW DO WE KNOW WHETHER SRILA PRABHUPADA ACTUALLY DIED FROM CADMIUM POISONING OR FROM SOMETHING ELSE?

Well, it really doesn’t matter. The hair tests and expert opinions confirm Srila Prabhupada was poisoned with lethal levels of cadmium over a minimum of 8 months. The point is that cadmium poisoning is unnatural and could not come about other than deliberate poisoning. It also exacerbates diabetes and kidney disease. There WAS an attempted murder, regardless of what a coroner would say was the final cause of death. What is very clear is that such a massive cadmium poisoning would bring death much sooner than otherwise, maybe by 10 or 15 years.

 

(20). I DON’T HAVE TIME FOR ALL OF THIS. I’M TOO BUSY PREACHING, AND ACTUALLY SERVING SRILA PRABHUPADA’S MISSION.

This is an ad hominem attack that implies those who spend time on examining the facts surrounding Srila Prabhupada’s disappearance are not real servants of Srila Prabhupada, they don’t engage in substantial service, and are wasting time. This of course ignores the facts that clearly establish that Srila Prabhupada was given poison with malicious intent by those who were close to him. Besides, actually most if not all those who ARE concerned about Srila Prabhupada’s being poisoned and his mission being taken over by the poisoners, ARE enthusiastically engaged in sadhana and in sharing Krishna consciousness with others.

 

(21). WE CANNOT TRUST THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY OF THE HAIR SAMPLES- MAYBE THEY WERE TAMPERED WITH, OR ARE NOT SRILA PRABHUPADA’S HAIR AT ALL.

The GBC book Not That I Am Poisoned details how they arranged for bona fide Srila Prabhupada hair samples via Hari Sauri to be sent to Larry Kovar in California and then on to the University of Wisconsin. We have the Fedex receipt for how these samples were then sent directly to Dr. Morris in Missouri. That covers two of the cadmium tests. The third was from hair found by Dr. Morris in Srila Prabhupada’s hairclippers, which had been in the Vrindaban ISKCON museum until Hari Sauri brought them to Balavanta, the GBC investigator, who sent them on to Dr. Morris. There is a completely secure chain of custody that is documented and thoroughly dispels any idea of tampering by outside parties.